Shortly before moving away from North Carolina, I was invited to give a talk in church on any subject I chose. I chose to speak about what it means to me to belong to a true and living church. What I'm posting here is my edited version based on my notes. It isn't exactly what I said, because I didn't edit it until the last couple of weeks. I did my best to capture the messages I gave that day.
We belong to a true and living church. I want to talk to you today about what that means to me. Joseph smith said, "One of the grand principles of “Mormonism” is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may." (–Joseph Smith, History of the Church 5:498-5)
He also said, "Have the Presbyterians any truth? Yes. Have the Baptists, Methodists, etc., any truth? Yes. . . . We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true “Mormons.”" (--Joseph Smith, HotC 5:516-18)
We aspire to embrace all truth--Christ's life and love, continuing revelation, science, and truths already known by other good people. This is what it means to me to belong to a true church.
We don't have all truth. We are going to learn more truth, and as we learn more truth the church will change. This is what it means to me to belong to a living church. Sometimes we will even discover that we have to give up doctrines we held dear.
One of my favorite stories from the New Testament is of Peter and Cornelius. Cornelius learned of the Gospel and wanted to be baptized. He was a Gentile, and the Gospel was not being preached to the Gentiles. In the meantime, Peter received a vision. The Lord sent him a cloth filled with unclean animals, and told Peter to eat. Peter said, I have never eaten unclean things! God said, if I call it clean, you shouldn't call it unclean. He sent Peter this vision two more times. Peter had the answer, but he didn't know the question, yet. Then, Cornelius's servant asked for Peter to come and teach Cornelius's household. Peter didn't know the question until Cornelius asked. Then Peter knew the Gospel was to be preached to the Gentiles. The church had to give up their previously held belief that the Gospel should only go to the Jews. We may not see why this would be so hard, but Peter and the other Christian Jews had grown up in a culture where they were taught it was against God's law to welcome unclean
Gentiles into the covenants of Israel. And weren't they following Christ's example in only teaching the Jews? It wasn't trivial for them to give up these beliefs they had accepted as revealed doctrine. It hurts to learn that we have been wrong, and even more to learn that the whole church has been wrong, but it has happened more than once and is a danger of belonging to a living church.
So the church changes, and prophets receive revelation to guide it. I'd like to suggest an exercise--look at Joseph Smith's revelations. How many of them came without someone asking a question first? How many of the questions were asked by people other than the prophet?
I want to share one of my stories about a struggle to understand truth. When I first learned a little about evolution, I thought it was really cool. A little later, for my high school biology class, we were sent home with a note asking our parents if we could be taught evolution. My parents signed, and my mom, who doesn't have that much invested in science, tried to help me see how a person could be an honest Latter-day Saint and believe in evolution.
Over the next years, I was taught in seminary that I was a heretic and unfaithful for believing in evolution. This hurt, to have seminary and institute teachers, that I knew to be good men, and an apostle that I believed in, like Elder Packer, tell me that I was either a fool or a heretic. I didn't feel like either. I felt like someone honestly trying to learn all the truth I could, from every source available to me. I had a hard time listening to Elder Packer without getting upset.
I didn't give up on listening to Elder Packer, and as a missionary I learned more from his teachings about recognizing the Spirit than perhaps any other single person. It took many years for me to get comfortable with this tension--that a leader could be inspired and also get some things wrong. (Years later, I learned apostles James E. Talmage and John A. Widtsoe, and President David O. McKay believed in evolution.)
Changes have happened throughout the history of the church. When we are ready, the changes can be wonderful and for the better. Many changes came during the restoration of the Gospel through Joseph Smith. It was a great day when the priesthood was extended to all worthy men. Over the last several years we have seen a relinquishing of control over many decisions from the General Authorities to the stake and ward levels. And we can expect to see changes throughout our lives. Questioning is a wonderful and beautiful part of Mormonism.
At a recent Worldwide Leadership Meeting, President Uchtdorf taught:
"Brothers and sisters, as good as our previous experience may be, if we stop asking questions, stop thinking, stop pondering, we can thwart the revelations of the Spirit. Remember, it was the questions young Joseph asked that opened the door for the restoration of all things. We can block the growth and knowledge our Heavenly Father intends for us. How often has the Holy Spirit tried to tell us something we needed to know but couldn’t get past the massive iron gate of what we thought we already knew?"
Now the teacher part of me comes out. How do humans learn best? We learn best by constructing our own knowledge and discussing with our peers. Talking with an expert doesn't help us as much. An expert telling us doesn't work. Some of my students hate it when I teach this way. They say "you're not doing your job. You're not teaching us." But have you ever experienced the joy of figuring out a new truth? You really own it and can use it. You are free to do with it what you can, not just what your teacher showed you.
This is how God teaches us. We have to prepare and ask the right question at the right time. Then the Spirit gives us beautiful insights. God wants us to become gods, not encyclopedias or automatons. Sometimes we might think God isn't doing his job, but he knows we have to do the work to learn, even though every understanding we gain is truly a gift.
In conclusion, I want to share some of the reasons I love Mormonism. It teaches us to question. It teaches us to embrace ALL truth. It's a living church with living prophets and living revelation. It teaches that the two great commandments are to love God and love my neighbor.
I don't have to fear questions. I don't have to fear change, or learning that I believed something wrong. These are a beautiful part of the process of becoming gods. I can embrace those who question and doubt, and those who believe differently from me if they, too, desire to become one in the body of Christ. I hope I can do my part to value every member of this true and living body of Christ.
Thoughts on Mormonism, Transhumanism, and reconciling humanity, and original poetry, crafts, and other interests of Jonathan Cannon
Sunday, October 7, 2012
My Personal Creed
When George Albert Smith was 34, he wrote 11 ideals that he committed to live by. I have adapted them for me, and wanted to share them. I found this list in the first chapter of _Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: George Albert Smith_. Two of my inspirations in the ways I worded my adaptations are writings of Hugh Nibley about accusation, and of Terry Warner about HOW to serve others selflessly.
I would be a friend to the friendless and find joy in ministering to the needs of the poor and repressed.
I would invite others to see the hand of God in our everyday lives, and to seek and trust in His blessings in times of need.
I would teach the truth to the understanding and blessing of all mankind.
I would accept and love truth, whatever its source.
I would not be an accuser, and I would seek the best motives in people's words and actions.
I would help others find happiness according to their own best understanding and desires.
I would not seek to force people to live up to my ideals but rather use persuasion, meekness, long suffering, patience, kindness, generosity, and love to arrive with them at practices that will most benefit intelligences.
I would live with those who differ from me to help them achieve their righteous desires that their earth life may be happy.
I would not knowingly wound the feelings of any, not even one who may have wronged me, but would seek to do him good and make him my friend.
I would overcome the tendency to selfishness and jealousy and rejoice in the successes of all the children of my Heavenly Father.
I would not be an enemy to any living soul.
I would be a friend to the friendless and find joy in ministering to the needs of the poor and repressed.
I would invite others to see the hand of God in our everyday lives, and to seek and trust in His blessings in times of need.
I would teach the truth to the understanding and blessing of all mankind.
I would accept and love truth, whatever its source.
I would not be an accuser, and I would seek the best motives in people's words and actions.
I would help others find happiness according to their own best understanding and desires.
I would not seek to force people to live up to my ideals but rather use persuasion, meekness, long suffering, patience, kindness, generosity, and love to arrive with them at practices that will most benefit intelligences.
I would live with those who differ from me to help them achieve their righteous desires that their earth life may be happy.
I would not knowingly wound the feelings of any, not even one who may have wronged me, but would seek to do him good and make him my friend.
I would overcome the tendency to selfishness and jealousy and rejoice in the successes of all the children of my Heavenly Father.
I would not be an enemy to any living soul.
Thursday, September 6, 2012
Assuming Too Much
“That is probably the worst case for
God I've ever seen. At least when a creationist first cause argument
shoots itself in the foot, it only does it once. Plus this argument
begs the question when it claims that our world is such a state of
affairs that is evident of goodness and benevolence when there is
absolutely no proof of that nor what goodness and badness precisely
are. We only have our human-centered valuing system. As Xenophanes
said: if horses had gods, they would look like horses. Classic
egotistical rhetorical fluff.”
Various criticisms I have received
recently have made it clear to me that the number and presentation of
the assumptions made in my speculations on the nature and probability
of evolved Gods are off-putting to some readers. The criticism above
is a colorful illustration of this fact. In my initial presentations,
I left out many justifications of my assumptions for the sake of
brevity. Now, I am attempting to evaluate just how many times I
really have shot myself in the foot. I may need help to do this, but
to begin I will state my foundational assumptions and attempt to
compare them with all alternative assumptions. If my
assumptions are implausible, this implies that there are more
plausible assumptions. As you will see, there are cases where I think
there are equally plausible assumptions which I reject for aesthetic
reasons, but fail to see how the alternatives are more provable or
rational. I would particularly welcome comments explaining
alternative assumptions that I have overlooked, and explanations of
why they are preferable to the assumptions I have made.
Here is a summary of several objections
to my speculations:
- There is no scientific evidence of a benevolent, personal, intervening God that cannot be explained by reference to observable natural law, therefore, the simplest explanation which explains all observable data is that no such God exists. It is important to note here that these atheists are not making the claim that no God exists. They are making the claim, however, that atheism is the most reasonable conclusion given the known data.
- The claim that a benevolent, intervening God created our universe is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary proof.
- My views involve so many assumptions that are unlikely that they aren't worth the time to think about. With so many ifs, one is bound to be false, and it has long been known that after accepting one wrong assumption you can prove anything to be true.
- Life is meaningful without believing there is anything outside of this observable life.
To the first two objections, my
response is that these claims actually imply a number of assumptions
about the nature of existence that have not been carefully
articulated. I attempt to highlight some of them below. To the third
objection, I can only ask for patience if you are truly interested in
understanding my viewpoint. To the fourth objection, I can only
concede. Life is meaningful. I know it may be egocentric, but I hope
for a uniqueness and lastingness to the meaning of my life that is
not satisfied by more limited forms of meaning, and unique, eternal
significance is what I consider truly significant. Everything else is
fleeting or not meaningful by virtue of being common or inevitable.
The first point to understand is not
an assumption. It is a mathematical property of infinite and/or
growing systems. To state it simply, one infinite thing can be so
much bigger than another infinite thing that, for all practical
purposes, only the bigger thing exists. Below is a more formal
statement of the principle:
- If two processes converge to infinity, and a random observer observes a single result from one of these processes, if the observation is made approaching infinity, the probability is 1 that the observer will see the result of the process that converges to infinity at a higher rate.
This is not an assumption. It is not
really a string of ifs. It is a statement of mathematical fact that
must be understood to rationally discuss many of my assumptions. Take
the time to convince yourself of this before criticizing subsequent
assumptions.
My first assumptions deal with the
physical limits of existence. Is the observable universe all there
is? This seems unlikely given the history of the expansion of human
knowledge. What are the consequences of assuming that existence is
finite, infinite, or a combination of the two?
- The size of existence
- Time, space, matter, and energy are finite in every sense
- There is no eternal significance to existence, since existence is not eternal in any sense (there can still be local significance).
- Time, space, matter, and energy are infinite in some sense(s) but finite in their possible combinations (this could be infinite in time but finite in the others, finite in the spacial boundaries of each universe, but with infinite branching of universes within universes, or other combinations I haven't thought of)
- Every possible combination of these things can and will be attempted by random motions within the laws of existence. If there are a finite number of fundamental particles, there are a finite number of arrangements of these particles, and infinite time and/or space will attempt all of them. So:
- Every type of God and no God will exist
- Every possible set of physical laws will exist
- Every possible choice I could make will be made by someone exactly like me in every regard—none of us are even remotely unique on a cosmic scale because we are copied exactly down to electron spins in infinitely many copies throughout existence.
- There is no eternal significance to any particular part of existence because nothing is unique or undetermined, and everything arises from random chance that repeats itself at random, but globally predictable, intervals. (Again, local significance is possible, but it is necessarily only perceived significance, which could be all that matters.)
- Time, space, matter, and energy are infinite, and their possible number of combinations converges to infinity at exactly the same rate
- This is possible, but is the least likely scenario. If someone can justify its further consideration, I will do so, but the numerical improbability of this scenario compared to the other three is astronomical.
- Time, space, matter, and energy are infinite
- The possible combinations of matter and energy are finite on any possible scale of the influence of intelligent beings.
- This leads to the same conclusions as point 2.2.
- The possible number of combinations of time, space, matter, and energy converges to infinity at a greater rate than the infinities of time, space, matter, and energy.
- This is the scenario in which my argument is made. This is the first assumption that must be addressed before dismissing my arguments.
- I believe 1-4 cover all imaginable naturalistic existences. There is a good chance my imagination is too limited, so I welcome the discussion of other proposals.
Scenario 2.1 I reject based on the
apparently eternal nature of matter and energy—if I accept the
first law thermodynamics, I can't believe that matter and energy
cease to exist, so existence must be infinite in at least some
senses. I could reject the first law of thermodynamics, but I doubt
this is an objection of any naturalist who may read my arguments.
Scenarios 2.2 and 2.4.1 seem the most defensible based on current scientific observations and theories. One of them might be reality, and I may have to accept it if I really value truth. So far I am unconvinced. I reject these scenarios for two reasons. The first is that I can see no reason why our universe exists as it does, with the laws that it has and the universal constants that it has. If it came about this way based on random events, why couldn't a universe with intelligent life exist with a gravitational constant that differed from ours by 0.001%? Sure, other constants might have to be adjusted, also, but what reason do we have to believe they couldn't be? And if existence is infinite enough, we should expect that the gravitational constant will be different, somewhere and/or somewhen. And if the constants can be adjusted continuously, even over a finite range of values, then there are infinitely many universes with intelligent life possible, each of which is strictly unique. And that assumes that we maintain our current set of natural laws and make only quantitative changes, not qualitative ones. This last statement is again a mathematical reality, the only assumption being continuous adjustability of physical constants.
The second reason I reject scenarios 2.2 and 2.4.1 is aesthetic—the search for eternal meaning. In these scenarios, everything will happen—infinitely many times. Existence is one eternal round of computers being programmed to run every combination of ones and zeros that their processors can handle. A few of them will be cool, and some may be self-propagating, giving some eternal continuity, but only local existential significance. This is a typical context for discussion of Gods, or the lack thereof, and leads to a variety of possible conclusions. None preserve the uniqueness that appeals to me or fits with my concept of eternal significance. If this is reality, those who claim we should look for significance only in the microcosm are probably right. Fortunately, it is clear that meaning and hope can be found in this microcosm. Many transhumanists think within this context and still believe in a form of eternal significance. It is just an eternal significance that is shared exactly, in every regard, by infinitely many beings exactly like us—all the way down to our quantum particles. If this is your view, and you are unwilling to think outside of it, then now is a good time to again dismiss my speculations, although you may not yet have established their implausibility or irrationality, just your aesthetic preferences.
Scenario 2.3 I reject because of its mathematical improbability. I haven't even considered the fine points of this scenario.
Scenario 2.4.2 is the required scenario for my arguments, as a whole, to have any weight. If you are willing to consider this scenario, read on. If not, I believe the burden of proof rests with you to defend one of the others. To defend the first, you must reject thermodynamics. To defend the third, you must defend an extreme improbability. To defend the second, you must argue that physical constants can be adjusted neither over an infinite range of finite steps nor continuously over a finite range, and that only a finite set of physical laws (fundamental forces and fundamental particles) govern all possible manifestations of existence. Or you have to establish that what we can currently observe is all there is—a proposition that has a long history of being wrong. I'm not claiming that arbitrary laws are possible, just that there are infinitely many possible. There are likely an even larger infinitely many fundamental forces and particles that are impossible. From my perspective, the extraordinary claims lie with scenarios 1, 2, 3, and 4.1 so these scenarios require extraordinary evidence. It's not a simple, nor undoubtedly correct conclusion, but I think I managed to miss my foot on this one.
If you haven't dismissed my arguments
as irrational by this point, then I invite you to explore with me
assumptions about how naturalistic Gods might fit into scenario
2.4.2.
- How Gods might fit in a naturalistic existence
- The possible existence of Gods
- The laws of existence do not allow for the existence of anything resembling a God that can create universes.
- The laws of existence allow for beings that can create other universes, but they do not interact with their creation
- there is no evidence of their having created our universe
- there is no evidence of their being benevolent
- there is no evidence of their intervening in our universe
- There can be universe creators that interact with their creation but do not leave hard evidence of it.
- Creator Gods are evident in our universe
- Competition among Gods
- Intelligent beings able to manipulate their environment (create and/or destroy) will flourish to fill all of the infinities of time and space (at least locally in a way that necessitates competition).
- There will always be more time, space, matter, and energy than all the intelligent, manipulative beings that will ever exist can occupy, so competition is unnecessary.
In weaker, more agnostic versions of atheism, it is not typically argued that a being capable of creating a universe could not exist, only that it is unlikely that we live in such a universe. Thus, I will assume that I can rule out scenario 3.1.1, although it may be true. It just seems easy for our imaginations to believe in humans eventually being able to make worlds, and to extrapolate to eventually making universes. I agree this may be wishful thinking, but if you want to stick on this point you will say I'm not a realist, and I will say you lack imagination, and we can live our lives not discussing the topic of God with each other. I will readily concede that 3.1.4 does not describe reality. A comparison of scenarios 3.1.2 and 3.1.3 is what my arguments were originally designed to address, so further discussion must wait until the foundational assumptions have been completed. Scenario 3.2.1 is the most likely scenario if scenario 2.2 holds, and may be possible in 2.4.1. However, in the context of scenario 2.4.2, I would assert that 3.2.2 is at least as likely as 3.2.1. In fact, subsequent (or previous, if you've read my other writings) arguments lead to the conclusion that if creator beings capable of breaking out of scenario 3.2.1 can exist, they will be the most likely to exist.
So what assumptions have I made so far?
- Existence is infinite
- Possible universes converge to infinity faster than the number of real universes (there are more possible universes than can ever be tried)
- Beings capable of creating universes can exist
- Competition is not inherent to creation
- Beings capable of creating universes sometimes come into existence
Five assumptions. Problematic? Sure.
Impossible? I don't think so, but I'm open to proof otherwise.
Implausible? That implies that some alternative is more plausible.
The remainder of my arguments are an exploration of the nature of
Gods that are most likely to exist within this context of existence.
They are probabilistic speculations based on what I know and think
about reproductive rates and what traits will serve best to propagate
a species of Gods. If you place these reproductive rate arguments in a different
context of existence than that presented above, some of them do not make sense, but before they can be rationally
discussed, some framework regarding the nature of existence must be
established. I invite you to show me a better one, and show me why
it's better. Otherwise, join my discussion and we can see if there is
hope for our eternal significance and uniqueness, hope for benevolent
Gods, and the possibility to maintain this hope without rejecting
science or reason.
Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Small Suffering
John Lithgow wrote a wonderful introduction to W. H. Auden in his book The Poets' Corner. It begins: "W. H. Auden was the furthest thing from the sensitive poet holed up in a garret. . . ." It's a fun read if you choose to look it up. The poem reproduced in this book is famous, and justly so. I hope you enjoy.
Musee des Beaux Arts
W. H. Auden
About suffering they were never wrong,
The old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position: how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
For the miraculous birth, there always must be
Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
On a pond at the edge of the wood:
They never forgot
That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer's horse
Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.
In Breughel's Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
Water, and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
Had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.
About suffering they were never wrong,
The old Masters: how well they understood
Its human position: how it takes place
While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
For the miraculous birth, there always must be
Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
On a pond at the edge of the wood:
They never forgot
That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer's horse
Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.
In Breughel's Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
Water, and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
Had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.
I previously posted "No One Will Ever Know," my poem which most closely relates to this idea of suffering--and joy--being of personal, not global, importance. So I have to choose another. A retired Indian Pastor I met on the metro in Baltimore shared a proverb with me: A sorrow shared is a sorrow halved, and a joy shared is a joy doubled. Maybe personal, passing suffering can be something we choose to make significant, as well as personal, passing joys.
Brother Jones
2000
My
friend is quiet, his voice is mild, his smiles
are
soft, and when we talk it never lasts
too
long. He’s never touched me, and our pasts
have
only met, our futures spread out miles
and
miles apart. My life is mine to live;
he’ll
not intrude. Yet he has listened to
the
Spirit whisper what I need, and through
His
stillness knew just how to give.
He
listened, taught, fought, and loved to show
me
how to fight in peace and grow beyond
the
fears of man by taking up the trials
of
humankind one thought, one step, one mo-
ment
at a time. Now we must hope this bond
of
friendship might help friends across the miles.
This was about Stephen Jones, the BYU physicist who taught my Senior Religion Seminar for science majors. It was a wonderful course. One of the most memorable days was when he shared his personal thoughts and experiences on how Charity can help us deal with mental illness. Every year I learn a little more how right he was when it comes to enduring change.
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
Unpredictable God, Unpredictable Me
I was discussing
free-will and determinism with some friends. I have a lot to learn about what others have written on the subject. It has been suggested I look into Compatiblism, in particular, but I put down some thoughts while they are fresh.
We were viewing free-will and determinism in the
context of our observable environment, and some interesting ideas
were brought out. I'm inclined to believe that if everything we are
is determined by completely predictable natural laws, then all we
have is the illusion of free-will. A friend argued that if our
actions are ultimately governed by random events (such as quantum
events) then our choices are even less free, in that they are not
really our choices at all. We just flipped a coin and did what it
said. I still struggle to see true freedom in either case. If our
choices can be predicted in every detail in any practical sense, then
we are not choosing, but only following a predetermined course. This
still seems an inevitable conclusion to me from total predictability.
At the same time, I'm unwilling to claim that God exists outside of
natural laws (even though I readily admit I don't come close to
understanding all of those laws), so I don't like my previous
proposal that free-will is some super-natural control over the
interface between random events (quantum events?) and apparently
deterministic, macroscale events.
Continued discussion brought out
thoughts from another friend that have given me hope of finding a
solution that satisfies me. I'll quote, without permission, some parts of the exchange:
CB: "That is (to put this in more prescriptive terms), if
non-determinism can beget determinism [e.g. random behavior of
individual photons resulting in predictable behavior of many
photons], can determinism beget non-determinism?"
JLC: “We call that chaos theory, and the brain certainly qualifies.
But it appears that determinism can't beget non-determinism, it can
only beget EFFECTIVE non-determinism. Something that is effectively
non-deterministic is deterministic, but its behavior is so complex,
that the best way to figure out what it will do is often just to let
it do it and see. So this is a type of non-determinism in the sense
of 'predictability' but it is still deterministic in the sense of
whether it would do the exact same thing if placed in the exact same
situation.”
CB: “. . . would you
agree that taking a descriptive rather than prescriptive position on
(non-)determinism allows for non-determinism to emerge from
determinism? And if so, what are the objections to a descriptive
approach?”
JLC: “Yes, I do agree that you can create SEEMING non-determinism
from determinism. Pseudo random number generators in most programming
languages do exactly that.
“My only objection is that such seeming non-determinism doesn't
provide the type of freedom that Jonathan and others like him seem to
want. If I seed the number generator with the same seed, I get the
same result every time I run it. It SEEMS non-deterministic, until I
start playing with re-running the program and playing with the seed.
“This doesn't bother me for my definition of freedom, but it would
bother a Libertarianist. Because ultimately there IS something
fundamentally different between true non-determinism, and apparent
non-determinism. Just because it is CURRENTLY undetectable, does not
mean that it would remain undetectable. If I can create a simulation
of your brain, that always does the same thing on the same input,
given the same seed, then suddenly the determinism becomes apparent,
and the apparent non-determinism vanishes, even for a radical
empiricist.
“I guess you can summarize that last criticism by saying that
apparent non-determinism can vanish when we learn more, even for a
radical empiricist.”
JGC: “Does it change something if you can prove that, while
possible in theory, it will never be possible in practice to learn
enough to perfectly simulate a sufficiently complex system? In that
case could apparent non-determinism become effective non-determinism?
Would that allow us to live in a world that is fundamentally
deterministic but effectively non-deterministic from the point of
view of conscious will?”
JLC: “Perhaps, but I don't see how you prove that about the human
brain. It appears to me that you will be able to effectively simulate
the brain in the next 20 years or so.”
So I've given up, for the time, my
view of free-will that requires supernatural influence. I don't like that view. I am left to
ask if free will might be found in effective non-determinism? Can
the human brain, or the human being, be simulated to the point that a
person's every choice can be predetermined? I'm inclined to think
not. Some years ago I gave up the idea that I am in control of every
choice I feel I should be able to control. Most, almost all, of my
motivations and subsequent actions are determined by emotions and
habits that, in a given moment, are out of my control. What I like to
think remains in my control is the ability to shape my habits and
emotions over time. I can make small choices that result in a
happier, more productive me a year, or 10 years from now. Experience
forced me to give up the belief that I am capable of making any
choice I want at any given moment in time. I'm highly predictable,
but I cling to the notion that I am not totally predictable.
So what happens in 20 years when my
brain can be mapped so that any input given it will show with 100%
accuracy what outputs will result? Either I give up my illusion of
will, or I conclude that my brain cannot be perfectly simulated. I
may live in a deterministic reality, but my brain is effectively
non-deterministic—the only way to know absolutely what it will do
is to start it going and watch. How can this happen if I concede that
my brain can be duplicated? If I allow that chemistry and engineering
can advance to the point that my brain could be simulated down to the
atom, and that every neural impulse that determines what I do can be
copied perfectly to respond to every input in exactly the way I
would? How can I maintain a belief in effective non-determinism? I
want a cosmology that strictly obeys natural laws, but I want to be
me. I don't want to be predetermined. I concede that I'm highly
predictable, but I want to be at least effectively
unpredictable—at least a little bit.
The start of my hope is hidden in the
very claim that we will be able to effectively simulate the brain.
Simulating the brain itself is not really sufficient. My brain—a
physically finite object that takes in measurable inputs and produces
measurable outputs—isn't really the system we're interested in. We
want to know how I will interact with the world. My brain is a open
system that can assimilate a huge variety of inputs. To effectively
simulate my brain and my future choices, you must be able to
effectively simulate all of the future inputs to my brain. This very
quickly becomes a computationally intractable system as you try to
simulate more and more inputs, possibly requiring more computing
power than could be harnessed by turning all matter in our universe
to the function of computing the possible inputs and outcomes. Maybe
the best way to see what my brain will do is to make my brain and let
it run?
I can see one strong objection to my
proposal. There are bound to be many irrelevant inputs to predicting
my behavior. In fact, almost all inputs are irrelevant—most are too
far away or otherwise undetectable to my brain, and many that my
brain does detect it ignores. This leads me to conclude that almost
every action I will take will be predictable by other humans in the
not too distant future. What chance remains that it won't be every
action? Is there some real hope that I am at least a tiny bit
unpredictable? I invoke the web of human relations to maintain my
unpredictability. Not only must my brain be simulated, but every
other brain that is going to give me inputs, and every brain that is
going to give them inputs that will influence the inputs they give
me. The only practical approach might be to make our brains and see
what they do. Or maybe we can posit a day where we can simulate using
more power than is in our known universe? Maybe God can perfectly
predict all my actions, and my free-will is limited to my finite
perspective, and is predetermined in God's eyes?
I venture out into the realm of the
unmeasurable. I believe God and spirit are physical. They are made of
matter and energy like everything else that exists. For reasons given
elsewhere, I believe that we are in a stage of development where we
are unable to detect this type of matter or energy except by its
consequences on some of our complex, subjective, measurement
devices—our minds, hearts, and actions. Here is a set of inputs my
brain simulators can only simulate by random guesses. They can
trigger all of the religious inputs of my simulated brain and record
every action that might result, but they have no way to predict what
inputs God and the angels will send me. This still only pushes the
predictability back a level. When we become gods and angels we will
be able to measure and predict these inputs.
I'm not convinced it is true in any
practical sense that even God and the angels can predict all of the inputs. To predict the inputs into my human brain, you must
predict the inputs into the brains of God and the angels that will
influence me. To predict those inputs, you must predict an ever
expanding web of relationships in an ever expanding web of universes.
Does God know what I'm going to do? Pretty much. Does God know
everything He will do in the future? I like to think He still has
choices. If He might do something unpredictable, until He does it, He
doesn't know with absolute certainty what I will do. Do I know what
God will do? Sometimes. He's pretty predictable. But no more than I
am.
Friday, March 23, 2012
What God Is Like . . . Possibly
I don't much like views that place
religion at odds with measurable fact. I don't much like views that
assert the irrelevance of everything that is not physically
measurable, either. So I attempt to construct for myself the simplest
view of existence that explains all the facts as experienced in my
life. I don't think I can prove God's existence, or prove Latter-day
Saint theology. I only intended to rationally support an expansive
view of science, technology, and religion and to justify an honest
seeker of truth (hopefully that is me) in attempting to integrate all
three. I'm sure my Biophysical perspective will be apparent in the
arguments. They draw heavily on thoughts inspired by the New God
Argument (http://www.new-god-argument.com/)
and discussions on Mormon Transhumanist Association forums. I prefer
to think in terms of biology and experiments rather than technology
and simulations. Effectively, there is no difference in the essential
implications. I think the computational simulation perspective makes
some people imagine a more rigid set of assumptions about physical
laws than I suspect is correct. (Many Biologists are more
deterministic in their conception of causation than Physicists, but
the inherent error built into biological computation (genetics) seems
normal to most people.) So I ask myself,
What is God like . . . probably?
(Here's my shortest summary. I'll post
links to my longer arguments and tangential thoughts.)
- There are different orders of infinity
- Time, space, and matter are a large order of infinity
- The possible universes with all of their possible laws that can exist are a larger infinity than the infinity of time, space, and matter (but possibly of the same order)
- Genealogies of creators will have different orders of reproductive rates
- Random creation will have the lowest order reproductive rate
- Planned creation will have higher order reproductive rates
- Ask the question, which group of creators probably created me?
- After a long time, the probability of having been created by the creators with the highest order reproductive rates approaches 1.
- Therefore, I was probably created by the creators with the highest order reproductive rates.
- What characteristics will favor the highest order reproductive rates in this cosmos made of infinite space and matter?
- Long life
- Creative power
- Creative desire
- Desire for independent, creator-offspring
- Love, compassion, benevolence, and altruism
- Independent will and the ability to innovate
- Peacefulness and the wisdom to prevent destruction (on an eternal scale)
- Wisdom and desire to intervene personally in the most effective ways
- I was probably created by a creator with all of these characteristics.
- I can probably interact with this creator.
- I can probably become a creator with all of these characteristics.Here is a Long Version with more of my thoughts and reasons.Here are some of my thoughts on how this cosmology fits with various LDS teachings
Tuesday, October 4, 2011
Transhumanist Aesthetic
My friend, Lincoln Cannon, put out a challenge to create a Mormon Transhumanist aesthetic. One that matches the future we hope for and that we imagine can come as we apply technology to the benefit of humanity and as we become more than human. I don't know that my aesthetic matches anyone else's, because I'm not much of a transhumanist. I just like the community of people associated with the Mormon Transhumanist Association. I do have stories I tell myself about the kind of god I hope to become, and the kind of community of gods I hope to belong to. I only think about technology in these stories in the broadest sense--that is if you include as technology any application of knowledge to accomplish an end. I would like to share those stories, if I can figure out how to do it well. Any poems will start out as prose, and I think I'll write some thoughts here when my son lets me type unmolested.
Labels:
Science,
transhumanism,
writing
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